titanic tourist sub

no they are not all built well with watertight bulkheads

 

In essence that is standard common practice, but by administration "sailing".

That is why you get many vessels which run around or have serious safety issues regarding their structure/life saving etc generally have 1 common theme upon inspection of their particulars, they are all flagged in "less serious" flag states, shall we say. These being Panama and Liberia, as an example. Their rules for compliance are not a strict as others...which saves the owner money.

 

This "flags of convenience" issue goes back as far as I can remember. I wonder if the recent major bridge incident will usher in change? As far as the Tourist submersible goes, it was but deck cargo until deployed. I am unsure if any relevant statutes exist for where it was deployed.

 

But is was built in the US and never intended to be deck cargo. Other than that..

 

No worries, we seem to be circling a particular point that we will not reach agreement on. I'd sooner swap fishing trip stories. Was impressed with your stabilised canoe and the loads it was handling. I haven't aeen much of freezing conditions since I left my home state.

 

I agree with all your comments; mostly fishing stories..

 

Don't know any billionaires, but did work for a few guys worth the over 100 million mark. Occurred to me they think much different than the rest of us. Regulations or similar limitations aren't going to slow or stop them if it's in the way of a goal. Conversly they are going to always have access to the vast expense of tax payer dollar search and rescue. So adding rules isn't going to change how the response to titan went down.

Still surprised that many very wealthy folks didn't have better advice or data. Worked for a guy who was probably in the 100 mil category at the time. I'd say the two things that shocked me the most, were his ability to rapidly aquire information and quality advice. Second was his ability to access state and federal leaders. Not sure folks with higher capacity will be stoped by any govt or regulation in the way...

 

Even your boat meets standards, and not subject to nearly the same amount of risk.

 

You are so focused on your agenda you didn't see what he was saying, these high wealth types are not going to let something as minor as a statutory regulation stand in the way of their glory, and politicians and their lackeys rarely go near them, because these wealthy playboys own them. However a guy trying to make a living with a boat or two gets regulated out of existence.

We live in a sick and corrupt world where we have allowed the psychopathic lunatics charge. Most don't see it because they are insulated from it.

 

Basic natural seaworthy standards, ones that don't... sink.

Same with these things, design didn't work next one probably will involve more competence and will likely work. Fairly brutal learning curve, guessing next slew of billionaire explorers will have better tech faster than regs can be passed.

 

the only psychopath here is fairly clear if you know anything about composites

My agenda is basically recognition of sheer stupidity. Can it be stopped? Maybe not.

 

It probably already is stopped, or at least for a little while. For the price tag, can't imagine the target market is all that big and lord knows the media got the word out of the failure. Guessing the next round of billionaires are likely going to get a second opinion.

 

There is already another sub being drawn up.

The instigator called the Oceangate project many names.

I should add, for those who don’t read it; he called S. R. “predatory” which reflects my attitude.

Ohio billionaire to take submarine to Titanic site one year after OceanGate implosion – NBC New York https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/ohio-billionaire-submarine-titanic-site-oceangate-implosion/5454604/

 

Footage revealed of Titan sub's tail cone on sea floor (bbc.com)

 

Quite remarkable to hear the testimony of Lochridge. He saw many of the things we saw.

Quite remarkable as well to hear the naivety of the Mission Specialist here suggesting being in a dinghy ride to the platform was riskier. She has no idea how shoddy the composites work was..

Titan submersible hearing live updates: Former OceanGate mission specialist Renata Rojas testifies https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvglmn4engkt#player