titanic tourist sub

Only the operator.

 

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A scary thought. But doesn't the country it sails from have regulatory control while in it's waters? Not that that would change anything here. The submersible was on deck until it reached the Titanic.

 

I would put more faith in an individual than in any government.
However, that would put the individual under great scrutiny.

Yes, but what country was the Titan sailing under?

Agreed.

 

A new analysis for the masses....nothing really new to those in the field, but a good explanation to those without a deep submergence structural background.



Personal blurb:

 

Interesting video.

A bit hard to follow, but my takeaway is the design was barely sufficient.

But I either skipped over or cyclical fatigue was not included.

 

Cyclical loading and other things he notes were not included. Which is why it is really shocking to him. All the info to make it safe is out there to be used.

 

One year on....

Another billionaire wants to ride a submarine to the Titanic wreckage https://www.yahoo.com/news/another-billionaire-wants-ride-submarine-192743622.html

 

Until it was deployed it was deck cargo and I cannot see how any statutory authority could intervene at that stage. Those aboard surely felt the noose before it descended and I wonder what unmanned depth testing occurred?

I have had my thrills on the ocean and up to about 70m below the surface, and have an idea of what can go wrong in short time in those conditions. An oring was mentioned earlier in this thread, as a potential source of failure; and little unnoticed faults are all it takes on the surface, let alone where they were in a mostly untested brain f@rt.

We have here an historical tragedy, the wreck from which has been located and filmed, is that not enough without piling other tragedies on top of the original wreck?

 

the name is going to get a lot of ridicule. Triton 4000/2 Abyssal Explorer. The Abysmal Explorer.
definition of Abysmal
abysmal /ə-bĭz′məl/
adjective

1. Resembling an abyss in depth; unfathomable.
2. Very profound; limitless.
   "abysmal misery."
3. Very bad.
   "an abysmal performance."

 

Feels more like a meme or a troll more than real. But it is 2024... billionaires do what they do it seems.

 

If I start out building a ship in the US and I plan to sell seats on said ship in international waters and said ship is not seaworthy or has a limited and unknown seaworthiness; it seems like a simple workaround to sail out to another governing or ungoverned nation. The place where the ship is built ought to bear the responsibility.

To be clear, I don’t mean tort claims.

 

@fallguy not quite so simple unless you are operating on the quiet for cash. There are international regulations for passenger vessels on open waters carrying 12 or more passengers.
https://www.imo.org/en/OurWork/Safety/Pages/PassengerShips.aspx

 

It is simple. If you build a boat in the US that will generate a certain level of revenue anywhere; then that vessel ought to be subjected to USCG inspection.

The US has all sorts of corny maritime law. What is one more?

It seems rather silly to allow a vessel of questionable design to be built in the USA and that vessel generates a million dollars an outing and there are no rules? Buyer beware?

 

I fully understand what you're saying, and certainly the boss of the outfit should have stuck to his day job, as he was way too arrogant and laughed off experts.

However no new legislation will be enacted until the enquiry presents its recommendations, if at all, so we wait.

The comment I made was in reply to your scenario of building a substandard passenger ship (ferry, cruise liner), and I'm saying highly unlikely as they are well regulated from design through to commissioning.