Personal overboard survival ideas

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  1. CarlosK2
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    Let's see.

    8b) There's no good solution, so you have to be careful, very careful

    8a) AIS is a wonderful invention, combined with digital VHF messaging.

    Aves Marine https://www.avesmarine.com/

    7) a good Surfing boat

    6) A boat hove-to capable with 6A) Sail and 6B) without Sail = sea anchor

    5) compartmentalized wooden boat with bow compartments filled with very Low Density expanded polystyrene

    4) horizontal rooting

    3) two rudders at transom and oversized robust parts/pieces

    2) Mast passing through the deck without making holes (!) in it to put the halyards inside, which is truly crazy, a dangerous superstition

    1) see above

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    The ability to lift the rudder blades out of the water is a magnificent ability.

    It is the second-best rudder, with the most impact resistance.

    It allows the sailboat to hove-to with the mainsail like a mizzen.

    It allows hove-to without sails, with sea anchor like an ocean rowboat.
     
  2. montero
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    montero Senior Member

    Freestanding rotary carbon masts with ability of immedietely depower (Rob D) . I wish fast folding mechanism or/and fail safe of the mast too.
    I wish many things...
     
  3. CarlosK2
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    CarlosK2 Senior Member

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    The same problems

    again and again

    At fuxxx Cape Horn (!)

    on the verge of losing the mast due to the troglodyte superstition of making holes in the mast

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  4. CarlosK2
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    CarlosK2 Senior Member

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    He cannot stop, he can only continue.

    Consequence: rescued by the Portuguese Navy.
     
  5. CarlosK2
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    The list of misfortunes since, say, 1979 is more or less the same, over and over again.

    1) Falling overboard
    2) Losing the Mast
    3) The rudder breaks
    4) The Keel, OMFG, falls off
    5) Hitting something strange and entering a lot of water

    6) can't stop the boat safely

    7) The sailboat trips over itself while trying to surf big ocean waves, tips over, tries to capsize, and in the worst case, the stern tries to fly over the bow in a 'beautiful' somersault.

    8a) Collision with a Big merchant ship in the middle of the ocean and 8b) a fishing boat near the coast.

    9a) impact of a wild/rogue wave and 9b) falling into a hole caused by an undersea mountain: seamount

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    9b

    The Class 40 "Pinocchio" was returning from a race and sailing toward the Azores: the stern crashed into the mast, trapping the life raft.

    https://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Histoire des 40' monos/CQ150 Carac.htm
     
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  6. CarlosK2
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    9a

    9a has no solution, so the sailboat must be prepared to capsize.

    Wild/rogue waves (and holes) exist; until recently, the scientific community considered them to be the fantasies of drunken old sailors.
     
  7. gonzo
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    In that case, maybe email Zoltar and find out where he bought the small backup vessel. By the way, those characters are not real.
     
  8. portacruise
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    "But a bit off topic of man overboard, why do 100% of recreational, also "expedition" boats rely on inflatable rafts that are unable to move?"

    It's the best compromise. Inflatable rafts are low cost, occupy less volume collapsed, weigh less, absorb severe shock better (think White Water rafts), have built-in lightest weight buoyancy, don't need to move if they have a satellite signaling locator device, have a history of saving lives, Etc
     
  9. montero
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    Aren't they? Sad . But I think such solutions are necessary .
     
  10. gonzo
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    Nothing beats good seamanship and a well designed and built boat.
     
  11. montero
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    New materials , technologies are tempting .Sailors didn't have such opportunities back then. You can also get wrecked in a place where help isn't so obvious.
     

  12. montero
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    I agree , but well designed for me mean some special features.
     
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